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01/24/2013

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We've done pretty well without any gods from the beginning, and we will be able to do OK without any gods, even though some think there are. And that's cause, even if there were gods, the moral values wouldn't be objective at all? Because there cannot be objective values. A value, by definition, requires the some sort of conscious evaluation. Even if there was a god or gods, those values wouldn't be objective, but subjectively god's. We might follow those values or not, but it wouldn't be our values at all. They would still be God's values alone. And if got to value them, then they would become ours subjectively. But if that happens, we would have a reason to value them. Maybe be cause they bring well-being for mankind, and that would be exactly why they have value at all. Nothing can be valuable or be a value independently of everything. There are no objective values. There are no values independent of conscious processes. Stop repeating that nonsense Dr. Craig.

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